the data leads. we'll leave our politics at the door. >> similar studies are under way in europe and canada. and he is offering treatments for veterans, firefighters and police officers. and here with me now is rachel hope. and you know i should start off by pointing out because people watch that, nobody is saying that street ecstasy is safe. a lot of times you don't know what you're getting, for sure if you're not in a controlled setting what it is doing to you. but that was not to situation for you, necessarily. you were doing this in a controlled setting. what was it like? you had never done anything like this before. >> yeah, i had never done anything like that. but it made it so comfortable for me, and prepared me, so when i -- i got the medicine, i had an idea what would happen. but it was pretty remarkable. >> you described it, if i remember correctly, like your brain lit up like a christmas tree. most people have no idea what that means, they have never done this. >> i don't either, i really want to know why it felt like that. like all of my systems were lit up. like i was -- just -
